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Then it really was a stupid move to make all these threats that were so specific. He said that regardless of the criminal case result he was filing civil suits.
I think he is high on the spectrum. We’re in virgin territory here and he’s never been challenged and humiliated in this manner. If Kim’s estimate of him making $130,000 per year is accurate, then he conceivably has the funds to try.
I think he might be foolish enough to do this.
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That would leave Marc and Cora Latham as the easiest target since they live in England. Lloyd is big on snapping back at people and Marc is remembered for the line “James Lloyd Evans, turn yourself in to the police” after he handed them the Marko dossier.
This was the point I was getting at. The Lathams are the most convenient targets for him and if he can’t sue them, he’s not realistically getting to anyone else.
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I’m old enough to remember Lloyd publicly complaining about a 118 page thread about him.
As for the London trip, I think it is possible that he’s seeing lawyers to initiate civil proceedings. It is my understanding that British law makes suing someone for defamation and libel a lot easier than in other countries. I believe there are at least two parties he can use this against based on their residency - Marc and Cora Latham and JW Beliefs Discussed.
I think he’s angry at being lampooned for his legal threats and is desperate for something (anything) to stick. So he’ll go for the most convenient targets.
Never underestimate the desperate means a broken man will go to in order to vindicate himself.
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How to spot a Cedarite:
Outright denial they are one.
Relate some banal anecdote relating how they disagreed with him publicly and lived to tell the tale.
Despite allegedly disagreeing with him in the past over something comparatively minor, they seem to always take his side when something major & career threatening happens.
Insist everyone is obsessing over him.
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Trying hard to keep this classy, but if his wife is still with him and is allowing this she’s a fucking moron.
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Why doesn't Lloyd take his own advise on point 8? Lloyd Evans, you have people from all over the world's permission to go away and find a new way to make money.
Lloyd's been threatening to quit for years. He did the same when he was here, threatening to leave for good and quit activism when a thread wasn't going his way. It's his way of drumming up comments begging him to stay and it's safe to say he gets off on it.
He simply can't quit due to the fact he has nothing else. He is not fluent in Croatian and unless he wants to pick tomatoes and raise chickens for the in-laws, he's unemployable where he is currently at. If his activism gets to the point where it's not pulling in enough money and his wife/in-laws finally show him the door, he'd be forced to return to the UK and work an entry level job. "I made YouTube videos for years about Jehovah's Witnesses" is not something that looks great on a C.V.
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I think Tibor should scrape together jobs he has done “other than” the John Cedars channel to fill in the “time he spent” working for Lloyd when he writes up his current resumé.
That's just it. This isn't real "job" experience any more than if you helped your local dog shelter set up their web page and got paid for it. If he thinks whatever real job he is going to go for is going to take a reference from this slovenly British man living out of his Croatian in-law's attic then he's sadly mistaken. The reference itself would be all about him and a complete joke...
"As the owner and Chairman of JLE Publishing/JLE Enterprises/Epsilon Media, I, Lloyd Evans, can attest that the Lloyd Evans channel on YouTube is our greatest accomplishment. Tibor comes highly recommended as he was very instrumental in producing and editing the high quality material I recorded in my "bunker" studio. Countless cult survivors have been helped by my efforts, and Tibor was a critical part in my success."
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I don’t want Tibor to be unemployed, but I’m genuinely curious as 540 was the level he had to reach to hire a video editor.
The benchmarks are only marketing techniques designed to encourage more patronage by promising new and better things. There is a number in that fat head of his where he will have to lay Tibor off, but I don't think it is yet. To sack him would be an admission of failure and contrary to his claims on the Gold interview that the majority still support him. But make no mistake, he's seething inside and you'll see a lot of cancelled Patron calls and such with the rationalisation that it's no longer a priority due to the loss of income.
I wouldn't worry about Tibor. If he's basing his financial strategy on how much he can draw from a notoriously cheap and dishonest man with a variable revenue stream who also admitted on camera to using company funds on sex workers, then the guy needs a slap of reality.
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Well I got my answer as he dropped below 540 last night.
He now has two goals that are not met.
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I’m curious if the Patreon algorithm drops the higher goal when there is more than one unmet one. Reason I ask is that he’s going to look goofy having two up there that are unsatisfied.
Even funnier would be if Patreon has a bot account that emails him after all these losses and he absolutely loses his shit because he can’t issue a snide comeback at a bot. Something like “Is Everything OK? Here are tips to increase your patronage!”
